Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/23/2003 03:28 PM House L&C

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HB  47-INSURANCE DISCRIMINATION BY CREDIT RATING                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0048                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  47, "An  Act  prohibiting discrimination  by                                                               
credit rating or  credit scoring in certain  insurance rates; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0118                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SAM  SORICH, Western  Regional  Office,  National Association  of                                                               
Independent Insurers, explained that  his group is an association                                                               
of  insurance companies.   He  testified that  100 of  his member                                                               
businesses are  doing business  in Alaska,  and they  account for                                                               
about 60 percent of the  car and homeowners' insurance written in                                                               
the state.  He stated:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The business of  insurance is a unique  business.  When                                                                    
     we sell our product, we  don't really know the ultimate                                                                    
     price of  that product; we  don't know who is  going to                                                                    
     file  a claim,  and when  a  claim is  filed, what  the                                                                    
     ultimate cost is.  What we  do is we estimate our costs                                                                    
     and  charge  premiums.    One  approach  is  to  charge                                                                    
     everybody  the same  premium and  just average  things,                                                                    
     but  that wouldn't  be  fair.   So  what the  insurance                                                                    
     industry  has  done  over  the  years  is  to  identify                                                                    
     factors  that  are  proven  predictors  of  loss.    So                                                                    
     insurance  companies  use  the   claims  history  of  a                                                                    
     person, that type of car  a person drives, how a person                                                                    
     uses a  car, the type  of home construction  as factors                                                                    
     that are good predictors of  whether or not a person is                                                                    
     going to have a loss.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SORICH said:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Some insurance  companies have recently  introduced the                                                                    
     use of credit  information as a predictor of  loss.  As                                                                    
     Mr. Lo will show you, this  factor is based on a solid,                                                                    
     scientific  evidence.    The  Fair  Isaac  Company  has                                                                    
     looked at  millions of credit  reports and  millions of                                                                    
     insurance  policies  and  the  loss  history  on  those                                                                    
     policies  and  have  determined,   have  seen  a  clear                                                                    
     relationship  between certain  credit  factors and  the                                                                    
     likelihood that  a person is  going to have  an insured                                                                    
     loss.  And  it's not just the Fair  Isaac research that                                                                    
     has  established this  relationship.    There's been  a                                                                    
     body of research, most recently  a report that was done                                                                    
     by the  University of Texas  Business School,  not paid                                                                    
     for [by]  the insurance industry,  not paid for  by the                                                                    
     insurance   agents,  but   paid   for   by  the   Texas                                                                    
     legislature.   This report  came out  a month  ago from                                                                    
     the   University  of   Texas   and   it  confirms   the                                                                    
     relationship   between  loss   experience  and   credit                                                                    
     characteristics, specifically an  insurance score.  And                                                                    
     Mr.  Lo  will  explain  what  an  insurance  score  is.                                                                    
     Insurance  companies  have   a  responsibility  to  our                                                                    
     customers  to consider  this evidence.   Because  if we                                                                    
     are forced to reject this  evidence, we are going to be                                                                    
     forced  to  charge  people more  than  they  should  be                                                                    
     paying  for  their  insurance   based  on  proven  cost                                                                    
     predictors ...                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0351                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SORICH continued:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     First  on  the legal  basis,  the  Federal Fair  Credit                                                                    
     Reporting  Act was  enacted in  1970.   It specifically                                                                    
     allows insurance  companies to use  credit information.                                                                    
     Now  states can  enact laws  that restrict  the use  of                                                                    
     this  information, but  any state  enactment cannot  be                                                                    
     inconsistent  with  the  federal  law.   No  state  has                                                                    
     absolutely  prohibited the  use of  credit information.                                                                    
     There  are many  states, though,  that have  restricted                                                                    
     the use.   In terms  of the consumer benefits,  the use                                                                    
     of  credit information  helps insurance  companies make                                                                    
     decisions that are objective.   An insurance score does                                                                    
     not consider  a person's income, where  a person lives.                                                                    
     What kind  of car a  person drives, a person's  race, a                                                                    
     person's  income, is  not  considered  in an  insurance                                                                    
     score.   An insurance score  is based on  the objective                                                                    
     information in a credit report.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SORICH testified:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Secondly,  the  use  of   credit  ...  gives  insurance                                                                    
     companies more  information about our  policyholders so                                                                    
     we  can make  fairer decisions.   We  are a  fact-based                                                                    
     industry.  We make  our decisions based on information.                                                                    
     The more  information we make,  the more  well informed                                                                    
     our  decisions are  and the  fairer our  decisions will                                                                    
     be.  Third,  the use of this tool helps  us to make our                                                                    
     decisions  more   quickly.    When  people   apply  for                                                                    
     insurance, we are able to  make a decision more quickly                                                                    
     based on  the insurance score  of how much to  charge a                                                                    
     person and whether  or not the policy  will be written.                                                                    
     That helps  to lower  the cost  of insurance.   Fourth,                                                                    
     the use  of this  information helps  us to  establish a                                                                    
     higher level of  equity and fairness.   Again, the body                                                                    
     of  evidence that  establishes  this relationship  does                                                                    
     show that this  is a good predictor.  If  we are forced                                                                    
     to ignore this tool, our rates will be less fair.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0497                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SORICH noted:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     And finally, the use of  this tool is helping insurance                                                                    
     companies to make insurance more  available.  We are in                                                                    
     the business  of writing  business.   We're not  in the                                                                    
     business of not writing  business.  Insurance companies                                                                    
     want  to  offer  coverage.   And  providing  them  this                                                                    
     additional  information gives  insurance companies  the                                                                    
     security of  knowing ... the  likelihood of  whether or                                                                    
     not a person  will file a claim is.   ... There is some                                                                    
     controversy, no doubt about it.   But I think there are                                                                    
     good reasonable answers to some of the controversy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SORICH stated:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The  National   Conference  of   Insurance  Legislators                                                                    
     (NCOIL) last  November adopted a  model act,  the NCOIL                                                                    
     model.   The NCOIL model  was adopted not  by insurance                                                                    
     companies,   not   by    insurance   agents,   but   by                                                                    
     legislators,  state legislators  just  like  you.   The                                                                    
     NCOIL model  addresses many of  the concerns  that have                                                                    
     been raised,  and the NCOIL  model is reflected  in the                                                                    
     committee  substitute (CS)  for  HB 47.    A number  of                                                                    
     states  have already  passed the  NCOIL  model:   North                                                                    
     Dakota,   Nebraska,  Kansas,   Oklahoma.     And   just                                                                    
     yesterday,  the  Georgia   legislature  passed  a  bill                                                                    
     that's modeled  on the NCOIL  model, and that's  on the                                                                    
     governor's desk.   So I  would encourage  the committee                                                                    
     to  consider adopting  ... committee  substitute HB  47                                                                    
     because it's based  on NCOIL and it's got  a solid body                                                                    
     of research behind it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SORICH continued:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ...There has been some talk  about what Hawaii's law is                                                                    
     or isn't.   Hawaii's  insurance code does  not prohibit                                                                    
     insurance  companies  from   using  credit  completely.                                                                    
     What the Hawaii  law says, and it's  only applicable to                                                                    
     auto insurance,  there's no restriction  on the  use of                                                                    
     credit   information  for   homeowners'  insurance   in                                                                    
     Hawaii.    The  Hawaii   law  does  prohibit  insurance                                                                    
     companies  from  using  credit information  to  develop                                                                    
     rates.  There is a  question about whether the law also                                                                    
     applies to an underwriting  decision, and that issue is                                                                    
     before  the Hawaii  Supreme Court.  ...  But again,  no                                                                    
     state has completely prohibited the use.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0671                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  LO, Insurance  Manager, Fair  Isaac Corporation,  testified                                                               
about modeling that is based  on credit information.  He referred                                                               
to page  5 of the presentation  package.  Mr. Lo  reiterated that                                                               
the  Fair  Credit   Reporting  Act  allows  the   use  of  credit                                                               
information.   His  company, Fair  Isaac, as  a modeler,  started                                                               
studying the use  of credit over 30  years ago.  But  in the last                                                               
10-12 years, he  said, the company has applied  technology to the                                                               
use of  credit information, predicting losses  in personal, auto,                                                               
and homeowners' insurance.   The company works  on the individual                                                               
policy   level,  matching   the  premium   and  loss   to  credit                                                               
information  on a  one-to-one basis.   Company  officials examine                                                               
the set of credit characteristics  that distinguish whether there                                                               
was a loss,  and based on that likelihood, they  predict the loss                                                               
potential for  that same  class of  business with  similar credit                                                               
characteristics.  Those are the  basics behind [the modeling], he                                                               
explained.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0755                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LO emphasized several preliminary  points.  He explained that                                                               
Fair Isaac has built many kinds  of predictors.  One predictor is                                                               
the  FICO  (Fair, Isaac  and  Company)  score that  predicts  the                                                               
likelihood  of  repayment  of loans,  auto  loans,  and  mortgage                                                               
loans,  but he  emphasized that  he was  not talking  about those                                                               
predictors today.  Fair Isaac  also has developed a different set                                                               
of credit-based  predictors for  personal, auto,  and homeowners'                                                               
insurance, which  are the  subject of  today's presentation.   He                                                               
said  that the  key relationship  from  the credit  data is  that                                                               
whenever  there  is  an  increase   in  financial  obligation  as                                                               
reflected  in a  credit report,  there is  an increase  in actual                                                               
losses and  an increase in the  prediction of future losses.   He                                                               
stressed that  all the issues that  he will discuss are  based on                                                               
this  found relationship  between increased  financial obligation                                                               
and future losses.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0830                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LO highlighted  the graphic  on page  5, upper  left column,                                                               
which lists five credit characteristics  that figure in insurance                                                               
losses.  The middle box in  the left hand column shows the number                                                               
of months since  the most recent adverse public  record, that is,                                                               
a bankruptcy, foreclosure,  judgment, or lien.   In this example,                                                               
when  the losses  happen within  the  last four  years, the  loss                                                               
ratio,  relative to  the group  that has  no such  adverse public                                                               
record,  is 68  percent higher.   He  said that  very significant                                                               
difference would be  useful to an underwriter.  The  first box on                                                               
the  right  hand side  looks  at  the  number of  adverse  public                                                               
records --  the number of bankruptcies,  foreclosures, judgments,                                                               
and liens  in the past.   He explained that 96  percent of people                                                               
have no  such adverse  public record, so  the majority  of people                                                               
are not affected  by this particular credit  characteristic.  But                                                               
for  the  remaining 3-4  percent,  the  loss  ratio is  simply  a                                                               
measure of loss  performance on a policy.  So  when loss ratio is                                                               
high, then  either the actual loss  is high or the  expected loss                                                               
is high.   On that basis,  he said the company  finds that anyone                                                               
with more than one adverse public  record has a loss ratio of 64-                                                               
68 percent, a very significant  number relative to the group that                                                               
has no such adverse public records.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0970                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LO  pointed to the middle  box on the right  hand column, the                                                               
number of trade  lines that are delinquent.  He  explained that a                                                               
trade  line is  any entry  on a  credit report  such as  a credit                                                               
card, a  mortgage loan, or  an auto loan.   The company  looks at                                                               
how many of  those were more than 60 days  delinquent in the last                                                               
two  years.   Basically, 89  percent of  the population  does not                                                               
have  such delinquencies  on their  credit reports.   But  of the                                                               
remaining  11 percent  [of  the population],  15  percent of  the                                                               
time, the more delinquency there was  in the past, the higher the                                                               
losses in the  past.  Therefore, [the losses] are  expected to be                                                               
higher in the future.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LO said  that another credit characteristic is  the number of                                                               
collections.  He said that 97  percent of the people have no such                                                               
collections on their credit report.   For those [people] that do,                                                               
the loss rate shown  is again very high.  He  said there's a very                                                               
clear distinction.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1039                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LO explained  that the fifth characteristic is  the number of                                                               
trade lines opened  in the last 12 months, the  bottom box in the                                                               
right hand  column.  These  trade lines are not  actual financial                                                               
obligations;  they  are  indications  that  someone  was  seeking                                                               
obligations.   The more  a person  seeks financial  obligation or                                                               
the use  of credit, the higher  the losses were in  the past, and                                                               
will be in the future.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LO  summarized that  in  using  these five  characteristics,                                                               
there  is  a   clear  distinction.    He  said   there  are  more                                                               
characteristics, but  he is only allowed  to show five in  a year                                                               
to the  public.  There are  other models out there  -- Fair Isaac                                                               
is  only one  model --  which  are very  creative in  the use  of                                                               
credit  information  as  the  model   attempts  to  produce  very                                                               
powerful  results.   He  turned  to  the  results of  using  five                                                               
characteristics.   The  bottom box,  left hand  column on  page 7                                                               
[deals with]  the number  of adverse  public records,  using that                                                               
information to separate  risk.  Since the majority  of the people                                                               
have no such adverse public  record, they are assigned 30 points.                                                               
People with one or more adverse  actions are assigned zero.  This                                                               
one characteristic  and the  two attributes  make it  possible to                                                               
separate out risk.  Focusing on  the months since the most recent                                                               
adverse  public  record, points  are  assigned  as follows:    30                                                               
points to  people with  no public records,  zero points  for less                                                               
than four  years, and  10 points  for more than  four years.   He                                                               
summarized how this  very simple numeric scheme  can separate out                                                               
the  risk.   With the  characteristic of  delinquent trade  lines                                                               
[illustrated in the bottom box on  the right side], he said it is                                                               
known that the more delinquency  in a person's credit record, the                                                               
worse  the person's  risk [for  an insurance  loss].   Points for                                                               
delinquency are assigned as follow:   25 for no deliquency, 10 to                                                               
one delinquent  trade line, and  zero for two  or more.   For the                                                               
number of  collections, 20 points  are assigned to a  person with                                                               
no collection history.  The  last characteristic, number of trade                                                               
lines opened  on the  last 12  months, is shown  on page  8, [top                                                               
left-hand  box].    On these  five  characteristics,  this  model                                                               
predicts a risk between the lowest  score of zero and the highest                                                               
score of  125.   On that basis,  he said his  company is  able to                                                               
tell one  risk from  the other.   If the  company uses  more than                                                               
five characteristics, the model is  even more powerful with finer                                                               
[delineations of risk].                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1232                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LO turned  to a commercial value model on  page 2, the bottom                                                               
right hand  corner.  He  pointed to the smooth,  downward sloping                                                               
set of bars,  each representing a group of policies  in a certain                                                               
score range.  The  low scores are on the left  side, and the high                                                               
scores are on  the right side.  He explained  that when the score                                                               
value  is low,  the policy  could generate  70 percent  higher or                                                               
worse [losses] than  the average.  The score values  on the right                                                               
are  high and  they  predict  that the  policy  will have  future                                                               
losses  50  percent better  than  average.    The swing  from  70                                                               
percent worse  to 50 percent  better is a separation  that really                                                               
helps an underwriter [decide whether  to] accept, reject, or tier                                                               
the risk into the proper rating structures.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1283                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LO  concluded that  FCRA  gave  the  legal base  to  collect                                                               
information and statistics throughout  the years, and models were                                                               
built, not just  for insurance but for other  businesses as well.                                                               
For insurance, the model was  built, validated, proven, used, and                                                               
implemented in  a number of  states.   The insurers can  use [the                                                               
model] to  underwrite on a selection  basis or can assign  a risk                                                               
into a certain tier by a score range.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that HB 47 and  questions pertaining to                                                               
it would  be held until next  week, when the sponsor  can present                                                               
the bill.  Witnesses will be able to testify then also.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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